lunes, julio 10, 2006

Yo conmigo - 23 ( Fabian Zalazar )













Esta historieta ha sido realizada al estilo de la ed. Dupuis en
honor a la Francia que eliminó a Brasil de forma humillante
del mundial y logró el sub campeonato.

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Fabian Zalazar dijo...

Pocas cosas tan pedorras como un feriado que te cae domingo. Al menos me sirve para escupir unos conceptos muy pero muy personales con respecto a la fecha.
Nos vemos mas tarde.
F Z

PD: Que cagada te mandaste Zidane, me arruinaste la dedicatoria casi.

fdx dijo...

no ando muy inspirado para un mensaje mas largo asi q solamente dire q concuerdo-

Liniers dijo...

Si algo tuvo bueno que hayamos salido del mundial (la remil que te pariò Ballack) es que desaparecieron todas esas banderitas de los negocios y las publicidades y los taxis...
¿yo? Humanista.

ciego dijo...

Recuerdo que durante el.. ¿juramento a la bandera? allí por mis 10 años, levanté la mano a la vos de "¡no!¡no juro!", camuflando mi punible descontento entre el resto de los juramentos obedientes. A mí no me iban a imponer sus creencias e ideologías, qué se pensaron? Y si hubiera tenido un mínimo de raciocinio cuando era un bebé, le comía la mano al cura que me bautizó. Así, sin dientes nomás.

Lo malo de ser un niño es que nadie te pregunta nada. Los adultos asumen que ante la ignorancia uno debe heredar sus tradiciones tan correctas y encauzadoras. Y si nos hubieran dado un poco más de tiempo?


Lo de Zidane me dio mucha pena, no merecía retirarse así. Culpo al italiano buscarroña y rastrero que le debe haber dicho algo bastante desubicado como para hacerlo reaccionar de esa manera. Los franceses deberían ser campeones e Italia retirarse a su casa con su fútbol mediocre.

Y si se ofende algún italiano que está leyendo esto, que me chupe un huevo. No, no lo digo de resentido, no me importa tanto el fútbol.


Gracias por el espacio.

Federico dijo...

Los partidos de fútbol hay que terminarlos a los cabezazos.

La idea de patria es complicada. A mí me gusta, no sé bien cómo organizarla sin fascismos, pero me gusta. Cuando mi nene hace de vendedor de escobas me emociono y todo.

ernan dijo...

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Peter dijo...

Para variar sigue Ud. sacando historietas de primera (me encanto el homenaje estetico).
Para mi la patria son ciertos afectos y algunas lindas costumbres (asado, el concepto de amistad, el mate, el sufrir por la seleccion de futbol, algunos vicios medio boludos (como lo de contar cuantos argentinos hay en la final pese a que la seleccion argnetina no jugaba))

Federico dijo...

Y bueh, Peter: eso es una patria. También una unidad administrativa bastante útil (más poderosa que un barrio, más manejable que un imperio).
Hablando de Patria: que el Sr. Fran López se busque una bien lejana si no publica Autobiógrafo pronto.

Semana Onírica dijo...

Yo, igual que unos cuantos, pensaba exactamente lo mismo que vos, pero sazonado con un odio particular. Ya me daba muuuucha bronca el patriotismo pedorro billikinesco (más bien me afirmaba en que era como "una idea falsa para controlar a las masas") aunque significara quemar horas de materias insoportables. Hasta que una vez, a los 15, pleno acto de entrega de diplomas de 5to año, no tuvieron mejor idea que irse a parar a la tarima todos los docentes y autoridades del colegio. Cuando digo "tarima", digo estructura de fierros pesados con una lámina de aglomerado de 1 cm y medio de grosor. Y yo, en plena inspiración a lo Carrie, rezaba con toda la fuerza de mi ser que "pasara algo". Y pasó algo, nomás.
Todos se fueron a la soberana mierda, por no decir sobre los fierros. El aglomerado se había hundido como en una implosión. Quiombo general, cámaras filmadoras y flashes captando el momento Kodak. Yo tuve que contenerme, porque en el momento exacto que que caían, en esas décimas de segundo, yo en manera sincronizada pegué un salto y se me escapó un "SI!!". Gracias a Deus, pasé desapercibido, o unos cuantos supieron comprenderme. El UNICO buen recuerdo de mi secundaria.

-Santiago, el renegáu.

PD:Imágenes para guardar en mi corazón: la de Cívica, delirando y gritando sinsentidos mientras era trasladada en una camilla con un cuellero; el morbo general enmascarado en una "indignación"; y mi sonrisa cómplice con las risas más abiertas de mi profe de Literatura, que aunque un viejo verde, no le faltaba onda.

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Anónimo dijo...

Los "anarcos" de cualquier signo y filosofía son la encarnación de la hipocresía más pedorra, protestan contra el sistema pero se nutren de él, se benefician del esfuerzo de los que desprecian, creyéndose en esas circunstancias los más "piolas" y cancheros ¡despreciable!

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Roberto vs dijo...

usuario anónimo: no metas a todos en la misma bolsa que el fantasma de Severino Di Giovanni te va a dinamitar el culo cuando duermas. rvs

Parte dos: Patria es una construcción de la modernidad utilizada como base de los estados nacionales y del imperialismo de los países centrales, generalmente, salvo ante la existencia de movimientos contrahegemónicos, la concepción de patria sirve a los interes de la clase dominante. Existen usos alternativos de los dominados del término. Whitelies, J. (1986) Fatherland: the XX century. Routledge. Londres. Glosary.

Emma dijo...

Me encantó el cambio de "rasgos", Z. Muy buena su reflexión, también.
Por lo que veo, usted no tenía que cantar todos los días a coro con un disco lleno de fritanga "Alta en el cielo, un águila guerrera", rebautizada con justicia "el águila pajera" (sic) para gran diversión de los alumnos y enojo de los maestros.
Varias veces quedé en penitencia mirando el retrato de Sarmiento en dirección. Llegué a mirarlo en tanto detalle (el tiempo pasa lento cuando uno se aburre) que hasta me empezó a parecer que estaba bueno....

Mr. Exes dijo...

Yo soy terrestre...

Y recuerdo haber hecho de negro velero en una fiesta patria, que cosa... madres atacando a sus propios hijos con corchos quemados

Saluets

MR E

sol dijo...

yo le creo al sociologo.

todas las mañanas escuchamos Aurora. pero nadie canta. y cuando no funciona el audio, todos empezamos el dia distinto... con libertad de ser patrioticos o no. esta bueno

y acerca del retrato de Sarmiento, en mi colegio hay uno de San Martin que si lo miras mucho tiempo, parece que te esta sobrando, levantando una ceja.

ernan dijo...

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Fabian Zalazar dijo...

Hoy empiezo a contestar temprano porque tengo una reunión a la noche con un grupo de inadaptados sociales.

Avanti:

Fdx: Concordemos que no es poco.

Liniers: Si, ese es otro ejemplo de patriotismo berreta.

Ciego: No sos tan ciego, coincido en cada una de tus palabras, gracias.

Fede: ¿Por un vendedor de escobas te amocionás? al menos un granadero. Bueno, es que detesto las fiestas escolares, me parece más útil que los maestros empleen ese tiempo en clase explicandoles a los pendejos como fué la historia.

Ernan: Mafangulo!

Peter: Y si, son puntos de vista. Gracias por el cumplido.

Semana onírica: Por las dudas enfocá todos tus deseos en que los miembros de HR triunfen y se llenen de dinero para no trabajar nunca mas en la vida. Gracias

Shinobi: Gracias por las palabras por la invitación, me voy a dar una vuelta.

Usuario "pedorro" anónimo: ¿Quien te dijo que soy anarco? Soy demócrata y pacifista, creo en la organización de un sistema que nos represente y nos gobierne con igualdad y justicia... pero estamos lejos de algo asi. Mi unica forma de luchar para hacer de este sistema algo mejor es poner mi ladrillo, como cuento en la historieta, siendo una buena persona, justa y solidaria. Vas a ver que el día que todos se comporten de la misma manera el sistema va a funcionar bien. De lo contrario seguiremos siendo una sociedad berreta, egoísta, miserable y roñosa, que cuando tiene que alzar la voz por algo importante calla o lo dice susurrando oculto en el anonimato.

Ernan2: callate!

Roberto: Gracias por iluminarnos.

Srta. Peel: Gracias por el halago artístico, y vuelva al rincón.

Exes: NEgro de corcho quemado, nada mas detestable. Aprovecho para pedirle perdón a mi ahijado que lo pinté tanto con ese corcho de mierda que tardó un día en limpiarselo.

Solcito: ¿Todavía siguen cantando aurora todos los días? y bueh...

Más tarde regreso a contestar a los que se vayan sumando.

Willy dijo...

Cuando hize la colimba en el 80, el 20 de junio había que jurar al la bandera,en 4ª grado se decía:"si, prometo" ,en la colimba:"si, juro",la manera de zafar era decir:"si, culo"

maxaguirre dijo...

La Patria es uno de los muchos conceptos sostenidos por resortes simbólicos. La invención del otro anteponiendo a la curiosidad el miedo por lo distinto tb es una resultante de la patria como pertenencia o bando. Divide y reinarás.

Por ahí han dicho algo sobre los "Anarcos", amigo, yo descreo de la anarquía porque desconfío mucho del buen criterio del otro sin una legislación que lo norme, sin embargo ciertos conceptos como el Patriotismo, tan aglutinadores y reduccionistas, me resultan miopes y al menos preocupantes.

A Zidane algo le habrán hecho, no es un tipo violento. Pero bueno, fue poco inteligente. Cuando nos gana la violencia es porque nos pierde la inteligencia.

Emma dijo...

Max: Hay un interesante artículo sobre Zidane en el Sunday Times del domingo, si maneja inglés:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-2261766,00.html

Emma.

JeffStrikeryRoccoSiffredi dijo...

Muchachos:
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También las señoritas pueden verlo para aprender alguna cosita.
Saluti.

Yo rvs no se que pasa con el otro coso dijo...

Sí, sí... el artículo que recomendó Emma sobre Zidane está muy bueno, es una pieza de buena literatura y ayuda a entender algunas cosas. rvs

A★ dijo...

HUUU siii el maldito corcho quemado!! mi mamá aun recuerda el berrinche que hice negandome de que me pase eso por la cara y fui la única negrita candombera rubia y desubicadisimaaa!!



Y no estoy de acuerdo con ningún-tipo-de-nacionalismo-o-patriotismo, si me tuviera que poner una camiseta o colgar una bandera (si existiera alguna de ambas) sería la de latimoamérica.




besos sr.

juan angel szama dijo...

(comentario intervenido, el juego de las diferencias).
Los "usuarios anonimos" de cualquier signo y filosofía son la encarnación de la hipocresía más pedorra, protestan contra el sistema pero se nutren de él, se benefician del esfuerzo de los que desprecian, creyéndose en esas circunstancias los más "piolas" y cancheros ¡despreciable!

Fabian Zalazar dijo...

Plena madrugada y acá estoy atendiendo el boliche, todo un patriota.

Willy: De la colimba ni me hable... por suerte me salve por número bajo de esa nefasta experiencia en absoluto inútil.

Max: Coincidimos amigo mio, pero esto ya se lo dije con un vino de por medio y estuvo mejor asi.

Srta Peel: No leí el articulo, veré de leerlo mañana mas despierto. A no, perdón, la recomendación era para Max, perdón por meterme, siga charlando.

Jefstrikeryroccosifredi: No me usen el espacio para cualquier verdura porque los corro con la escopeta eh. No me rompan la paciencia.

Amaia: Le parece Latinoamérica? es aún mucho mas grande e inabarcable que Argentina, no se, pero si le gusta. Besos a ud. tambien sra.

J.A. Lezama: Buenísimo, yo no lo hubiera hecho mejor.

Anónimo dijo...

Patria , nación, es ese entorno en el cual vivimos o tratamos de sobrevivir con dignidad; llevando y sufriendo las penurias de los más necesitados, llevando y sufriendo las desalmadas acciones de los menos necesitados, siendo la mortadela del sandwich social, donde el pan se salva prque es poco o despreciable, pero igual tenemos que seguir empujando el carrito escuchando y viendo el corso; Rvs: no me parece que el usar de rebusques en la exposición de ideas sea iluminar, talvez de una aureola de "sabiduria" pero son solo palabras ("contrahegemónicos" ¡ja!) lo cierto es que se les toca donde duele y ¡como lloran! porque la verdad duele...así de simple. Si les parece les doy mi nombre, mi DNI y mi dirección, así se dan el gusto de venir a "patotearme" (con esas caripelas que cargan ¿no, Szama?) y dense por felices de que entro a ver y considerar sus berrinches.

Angel Mosquito dijo...

Viva Zidane!!!

perdon, viva la patria!!!
viva la Algeria!

Angel Mosquito dijo...

Parece que a Zidane el TANO HIJO DE PUTA QUE TANTO APOYA CIRIANI le dijo algo asi como: "Sos un argelino de mierda", a lo cual, con SOBERANA JUSTICIA, Zidane respondio como era debido. Así que, Ciriani, vos que fuiste pionero cubano, ahora te gustan los fascistas, eh?
Ya vamos a hablar!

Fabian Zalazar dijo...

Usuario alcoholico : Si es tanta molestia siga de largo... yo no agradezco cualquier cosa que pasa por acá.

Mosquete: tomá Ernan!!

juan angel szama dijo...

tipico de la gilada anonima, cuando no pueden sostener un discurso propio se agarran con tu cara.

y si, tengo esta cara de palmito.
nombre y apellido.
y vos vas a ser cobarde y huevon toda tu vida.

Patriota dijo...

AMEN sr Salazar!

igualmente, me parece q un poquito de amor a este pais no nos vendria nada mal, tamos demasiado acostumbrados a tirar cada uno para su lado, ¿y si tiramos para el mismo?

patriota 2 dijo...

toy plenamente del acuerdo con salazar y con todos los otros agregados de gente q opina parecida. TOTALMENTE

pero hay un dato q llama la atencion...los paises maspatriotas son los q estan mejor, si, ya se, a fuerza del lavaje de cerebro de su población, pero mas alla de eso, muchas de las mierdas q se hacen en este pais, es porq no se lo quiere como se lo deberia querer. Deberiamos encontrar un punto medio, no rendirle adoracion a un pedazo de tela, pero tampoco un total desprecio...

Fabian Zalazar dijo...

Szama : No te calentès, no te calentès.

Patriota 1: De eso estoy hablando, de querernos un poco mas, a nosotros, al que està al lado, no a los sìmbolos pavotes. Es como el tipo que va todos los domingos a misa y se reza el rosario todos los dìas pero resulta ser un milico asesino.

Patriota 2: Los paises màs patriotas son los que estan mejor? en que sentido? el econòmico nomàs, sino andà a hablar de igualdades, solidaridad, libertad de expresiòn y tolerancia en paises como EEUU por ej.

Gracias a todos, los quiero un poco.

Anónimo dijo...

Y...no es molestia gil, es de gusto nomás, pero me sublevan "pendejos" que deben tener una maraña en el culo como el tal Szama, que seguro no pega ni a una chancha amarrada pero... bueno sigan igual, algún día se darán con la realidad o ella dará con ustedes. Chau.

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maxi de la patria boquense dijo...

Comparto tu opinión, Fabian... Tanto tereso que se viene escudando en el patriotismo y despues terminan siendo los vendepatrias numero uno...
Los patriotas de Mc Donall's que se vayan al joraca

Fabian Zalazar dijo...

Gracias por seguir viniendo y discutiendo por mi culpa. Gracias y gracias.

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